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  Quote crypt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 10:36am
I don't really burn dvd's that much but, I do have Blu Ray movies I watch on my computer at times. I guess I wanted options :).
 
 
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  Quote Jmundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Mar 2012 at 11:11am
Hello pdwe,
 
 
That's great, you always want to leave yourself with options pertaining to a computer build. Something things are easier to consider later, like external devices, but internal device can get complicated if you rely on upgrading at a later date. Even though burning bluray media is not quite at the frequency of burning DVDs it's still great to leave open as a possibility.
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  Quote crypt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 3:21pm
Hey Joe,
 
     Do you know if new motherboards are coming out for socket 2011 when Ivy Bridge cpu's release April 29th? Have you guys heard anything?
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  Quote Jmundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 Apr 2012 at 3:49pm
Hello pdwe,
 
 
We have heard some things, but unfortunately we're unable to post any information at this time. I can say that the next generation will be soon, and I think you will be pleased with the results. :-)
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CASE: HAF X
PSU: Corsair 1200 watt
MOTHERBOARD: QUALIFIED FOR GEIL MEMORY KIT BELOW
ASUS SABERTOOTH X79
CPU: SANDYBRIDGE  2820/2930x/2960x
MEMORY: Geil {RipjawsZ} F3-12800CL10Q2-64GBBZL (8Gx8)
HSF: Corsair H80 Hydro CPU Liquid Cooling System
VIDEO CARD: EVGA GTX 690
STORAGE: (3) (All in friont bays)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Boot Drive)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Storage)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Storage)
WD SATA 6 HD: 500 GB (Boot Drive)
WD SATA 6 HD: 750 GB (Storage)
WD SATA 6 HD:   1  TB (Storage)
SOUNDCARD: HT Omega e claro
DVD Burner Plextor brand
DVD Blu Ray Burner: Plextor brand
CARD READER: Sabrent CRW-UINB Black 65-1
OS: Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
What is the advantage of 2930x vs 2960x? except cost? I don't OC
 
Otherwise do you like this configuration? Do you like this brand PSU for 1200 watts?


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  Quote Jmundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2012 at 3:30pm
Hello pdwe,
 
 
That's a great configuration that you have put together! Why not a larger case?
 
I like the fact that you're deciding to use Coolermaster, however I think you should consider a different case, perhaps something larger, that way you're not cutting yourself short. Also, I highly recommend looking into the Professional Corsair series power supplies. They have been some of the best we have had the pleasure of working with and I don't think it's a coincidence.
 
Now that Ivy Bridge is out, I highly recommend a Z77 board, combined with a Ivy Bridge processor. Something along the lines of:
 
ASUS Sabertooth Z77, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-1866 32GB / + INTEL Core™ i7-3770 Quad-Core 3.4 - 3.9GHz TB, HD Graphics 4000, LGA1155, 8MB L3 Cache, 22nm, 77W
 
They may come out to be a bit more expensive, but it will provide a great way to make your system bullet proof, just about as long (if not longer) than the current system you are using now.
 
I'm happy to see you're sticking with the HT Omega sound cards, great product. :-)
 
Think about my recommendations a little more, especially if it will all turn out to be around the same price.
 
 
 
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  Quote crypt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2012 at 3:55pm

I kind of wanted to stay in the mid tower class. I also wanted 5 bays in front its hard to get that many bays these days.

Due to the amount of ram 64 gb I'm stuck into socket 2011 1155 only has 32gb boards.
 
As far as case any suggestions?
 
 
So what your saying is in a HAF 922 or HAF XM case you'd go Ivy Bridge and what about GTX 680 or 690 series yeah or no?
 
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  Quote Jmundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2012 at 4:07pm
Hello pdwe,
 
 
Ahh, makes sense...well, what makes you think you need 64GB to begin with? Are you folding at home?
 
Yes, all Coolermaster HAF size cases, above the 922, will be perfect for you.
 
If you're an avid gamer, GTX 680...if you eat, sleep, breath, and live gaming then GTX 690. Thumbs%20Up
 
 
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Specifications:

Model RC-942-KKN1 X
Material Steel + Plastic
Dimension Main unit: 230 x 550 x 590 mm / 9.1 x 21.7 x 23.2 inch
Weight Net: 14.35 kg / 31.6 lbs
Gross: 16.08 kg / 35.5 lbs
Motherboards Micro-ATX / ATX / E-ATX / XL-ATX
5.25" Drive Bay 6
3.5" Drive Bay 5 hidden
2.5" Drive Bay 2 (converted from 5.25" drive bay)
I/O Panel USB 3.0 x 2
USB 2.0 x 2
Audio x 1
Mic x 1
e-SATA x 1
1394a x 1
Cooling System Front: 230 x 30 mm red LED on/off fan x 1
Top: 200 x 30 mm fan x 2 (one optional)
Side: 200 x 30 mm fan x 1
Rear: 140 x 25 mm fan x 1
VGA Fan Duct: 120 x 25 mm or 120 x 38 mm fan x 1 (optional)
VGA Holder: 80 x 15 mm fan x 1 (optional)
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Model
Brand
COOLER MASTER
Series
HAF XM
Model
RC-922XM-KKN1
<>Spec
Type
ATX Mid Tower
Color
Black
Case Material
Mesh, Plastic, Steel
With Power Supply
No
Power Supply Mounted
Bottom
Motherboard Compatibility
Micro ATX / ATX / Extended ATX
With Side Panel Window
No
<>Expansion
External 5.25" Drive Bays
3
External 3.5" Drive Bays
2 x X-Dock
Internal 3.5" Drive Bays
6
Internal 2.5" Drive Bays
1
Expansion Slots
8+1
<>Front Ports
Front Ports
USB 3.0 x 2 (int.)
USB 2.0 x 2
Audio In & Out x 1(supports HD Audio)
<>Cooling System
140mm Fans
1
200mm Fans
2
<>Physical Spec
Dimensions
22.5" x 9.9" x 20.9" (L x W x H)
Weight
22.7 lbs.
<>Features
Features
Enthusiast case, supports four 200mm fans

Latch on 90 degree rotated side panel and top cover for easy system access

Rich I/O panel with two USB 3.0 super speed ports

8+1 expansion slots for NVIDIA 3-way SLI and AMD CrossFireX

Supports up to 9 HDDs, including two X-Dock slots

Sliding PSU cable cover for improved cable management

Universal water cooling radiator after removing the top cover

Top compartment with rubber pad for placing personal belongings

Maximum Compatibility:
- VGA card length: 354.0 mm / 13.9 inch
- CPU cooler height: 196.0 mm / 7.7 inch

Cooling System:
Front: 200mm Red LED fan x 1;or 140mm fan x 1, 120mm fan x 2 (optional)
Top: 200mm fan x 2 (1 for optional); or 140/120mm fan x 2 (optional)
Rear: 140mm fan x 1; or 120mm fan x 1 (optional)
Side: 200mm fan x 1 (optional); or 140mm fan x 2 (optional)
HDD cage: 120mm fan x 2 (optional)
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  Quote crypt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2012 at 5:21pm
Pretty similar specs wise from mid tower to full tower :)  Thought I would post it for others :)

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  Quote Jmundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 01 May 2012 at 5:22pm
Yup, however there are more fan positions...If only I could convince you to go with liquid cooling. Clap
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  Quote vikonic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2012 at 3:55pm
HAF cases are built for liquid cooling in my opinion.
 
Heck, i personally have a 912 with 2 240MM radiators and a full liquid cooling setup. a 922/932 or HAF X are awesome for those setups, and can contain everything internally.
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Aren't liquid cooling rigs hard to maintain? I figure building one yourself would be hard for a novice. I really don't know having liquid system is like?

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  Quote Jmundy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 10 May 2012 at 4:32pm
Hello pdwe,
 
 
Actually, liquid cooling systems are not difficult to maintain on a daily basis. They are, in fact, not so easy to maintain when it comes time to drain the loop, cleans the tubes, blocks, etc...and refill the loop after connecting everything. Both Vedran and I recently invested in a custom liquid cooling setup. The first time I incorporated liquid cooling into my system, it took about 20 hours total to get everything up and running. That does include the 3-4 hours I spent troubleshooting (I had several leaks in my line, resulting in poorly made barbs from a certain manufacturer that I will keep anonymous) to finally realize I needed to replace some things to increase the pressure of the tubing.
 
Then, the second time I worked on my system (removed everything to apply anti-kink coils, due to the sharp bends and restrictive space in my computer case) it took me about 10 hours to perform acceptable wire management, clean the tubing, re-install everything, and get it back into shape. If you're using coolant in the loop, you have to do this every 3-6 months. If you use distilled water, you can perform this every 6-12 months as needed. There's a lot more detail to add, but I'll save that for another day. If you're ever interested in it just drop us a line on the forum and both Vedran and I will be happy provide you with any information you need.
 
bottom line, liquid cooling is more work than an air cooled system, but it practically removes daily maintenance and replaced it with quarterly maintenance that will wear you out; well, it at least wore me out...This is my first experience with a custom liquid cooling solution, and since I'm not fully versed in the methods of liquid cooling maintenance it has taken a lot out of me. Once I begin to have more experience I'm sure it will get easier, just like most hobbies or interests you decide to get involved with. It is a lot of fun, and the end result is rewarding. I can only assume it's similar to those who modify cars to increase performance. I'm happy with my system at the moment. :-)
 
 
 
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  Quote vikonic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 May 2012 at 2:13pm

As Joe mentioned, the maintenance is less frequent making them less of a pain in the long run, although when you actually do perform maintenance it can be complicated depending on your setup. Joe's setup is a little more complicated than mine. Where as his might take a few hours, I can perform maintenance on my entire loop in just under 1 hour. That's partly due to my configuration and partly due to a spacious case.

 
Starter kits are becoming more and more popular, from companies such as XSPC, Swiftech, EK, etc. While 5 years ago you had to spend ~$500 for even a decent kit, nowadays the cost is significantly less, typically in the $200 to $300 range depending on the brand. Best of all, you get all the parts you need in order to have a fully assembled liquid cooling kit.
 
I begin liquid cooling my system using a starter kit from XSPC. Slowly but surely, I have built on that kit and added more parts. So the great thing about these kits is although they may not come with all the quality parts you like, they are great platform for building things further. Should you decide to leave them as it is, you can do that too and they will perform just fine.
 
All liquid cooling systems have one main component prone to failure, and that is the pump. Depending on where the pump is located and how it's mounted replacement can be either very simple or very complicated requiring a lot of disassembly.  However all other components are bulletproof. As long as you have correct size fittings, tubing and clamps, you will experience no issues. All that these items require is once or twice a year maintenance to keep them running clean and free of bacteria, oxidation etc.


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CASE: HAF X Blue Edition
PSU: Corsair 1200 ax
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS SABERTOOTH X79
MEMORY: Geil {RipjawsZ} F3-12800CL10Q2-64GBBZL (8Gx8)
HSF: Corsair H80 Hydro CPU Liquid Cooling System
CPU: 2011 I7 3930k or 3960k
Videocard: EVGA GTX 690
STORAGE: (3) (All in friont bays)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Boot Drive)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Storage for down the road)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Storage for down the road)
WD SATA III HD: Crucial 256gb M4 SSD
Soundcard: HT Omega eClaro pci-e x1
DVD Burner Plextor brand
DVD Blu Ray Burner Plextor Brand
CARD READER: AFT  57U
OS: Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 
How does this look for a build? Sorry no water cooling. I will use the H80 HSF
 
I even caved and went M4 SSD because of Joe.
 
This is really an upgrade of my present rig using alot of my own parts because they work so well :). I also wanted the option of hotswapping my drives at anytime. The AVA builders might freak but, it will be different then anything they have done so far :).
 


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  Quote vikonic Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2012 at 11:35am
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I don't see the CPU listed in your last build list.... Have you decided which one you're going with? Considering you're going to be putting the GTX 580 in there, make sure that you go with an i7 processor, preferably one of the top tier ones. GTX 580 is a very powerful card and you don't want it to be held back by a CPU at any point.
 
I also noticed you listed the H80 but you said only air cooled for you? I'm a bit confused? H80 is a good cooler though, push-pull fan configuration works well, even better with some upgraded fans.
 
Corsair 1200W may be a bit too much, but at least it gives you a lot of expandability room should you at any point decide to increase the number of GTX 580 cards in your system.
 
Wise choice of going the M4 route, I'm sure you will be pleased.
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  Quote crypt Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 05 Jun 2012 at 12:03pm
CASE: HAF X Blue Edition
PSU: Corsair 1200 ax
MOTHERBOARD: ASUS SABERTOOTH X79
MEMORY: Geil {RipjawsZ} F3-12800CL10Q2-64GBBZL (8Gx8)
HSF: Corsair H80 Hydro CPU Liquid Cooling System
CPU: 2011 I7 3930k or 3960k
Videocard: EVGA GTX 690
STORAGE: (3) (All in friont bays)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Boot Drive)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Storage for down the road)
Vantec sata Hotswap 4 401ST  (Storage for down the road)
WD SATA III HD: Crucial 256gb M4 SSD
Soundcard: HT Omega eClaro pci-e x1
DVD Burner Plextor brand
DVD Blu Ray Burner Plextor Brand
CARD READER: AFT  57U
OS: Win 7 Ultimate 64 bit
 
 
I fixed my post and I will be using the H80 HSF because you don't have to do anything with it as far as maintaining :)
 
 
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That's a great motherboard choice. I've mentioned this before in another topic but the Sabertooth series have always been very good looking motherboards on top of being feature-rich. Color scheme may be difficult to get used to at first, and sometimes it can even be hard to find matching components, but the series have been around for a long time. It is a very stable board, great for overclocking and has plenty of potential for future upgrades.
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