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    Posted: 02 Jun 2008 at 12:38am
I would like your input on this set up.  Primary use would be for FPS gaming.

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  • INTEL, Core™ 2 Quad Q9450 Quad-Core 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB (2 x 6MB) L2 Cache, 45nm, 95W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail
  • ZALMAN, CNPS9500A LED Copper CPU Cooler, Socket 478/754/775/939/940/AM2, Blue LED
  • SERVICE, Overclocking, Quad-Core CPU, 10-20% Performance Increase
  • ASUS, P5N-T Deluxe, LGA775, nForce 780i SLI, 1333MHz FSB, DDR2-1066 8GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI /3, SATA RAID 5 /6, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
  • OCZ, 4GB (2 x 2GB) Reaper HPC Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 1066MHz CL 5-5-5-18 2.1-2.3V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
  • eVGA, e-GeForce® 9800 GTX 675MHz, 512MB GDDR3 2200MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, HDTV/S-Video Out, Retail
  • SERVICE, No GPU Overclocking
  • ASUS, PhysX P1 Physics w/ Ghost Recon Game, AGEIA™ PhysX, 128MB DDR3, 32-bit PCI 3.0
  • WESTERN DIGITAL, 150GB WD Raptor®, SATA 150MB/s, 10000 RPM, 16MB cache
  • SEAGATE, 500GB Barracuda 7200.11, SATA NCQ 3 GB/s, 7200 RPM, 32MB cache
  • RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
  • ROSEWILL, RCR-102 Black 52-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive, 3.5" Bay, Internal USB
  • LITE-ON, DH-16D2S-04 Black 16x48x DVD-ROM Drive, SATA, OEM
  • LITE-ON, LH-20A1L Black/Beige 20x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ LightScribe, SATA, Retail
  • ANTEC, Twelve Hundred Black Full Tower Case, ATX, No PSU
  • CASE FAN, LED Fans Maximum Package, Blue
  • ZALMAN, ZM-MFC1 Black/Silver 6-Channel Fan Controller Panel, 5.25" Bay
  • CUSTOM WIRING, Standard Wiring with Round Cables
  • LOGISYS, Dual Cold Cathode Case Lights Kit, Blue
  • THERMALTAKE, Toughpower, 80 PLUS®, 850W Power Supply w/ Modularized Cable Management, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, Quad +12V, Quad SLI Approved
  • MICROSOFT, Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM
  • SERVICE, OEM System Recovery (both secure HDD partition and bootable CD/DVD)
  • SERVICE, System Binder
  • LOGITECH, G15 Gaming Keyboard, LCD, USB, Black
  • RAZER, Razer Diamondback™ Mouse 1600dpi, 7 Buttons, Plasma Blue, USB
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    Hello Flash67,
     
             Your configuration looks great! If you wanted to increase performance on this build, I would suggest DDR3 memory. By selecting DDR3, you can match the speed of your processor with 1333Mhz RAM. You will get more FPS on games, than you would with this current setup. Regardless, this is still going to be a fast system!
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    Posts: 14     		  Quote spector27 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 02 Jun 2008 at 8:56pm
    Posted by AndonSage in another thread:

    The DDR3 RAM is really not needed. With the high multiplier of the E8500, you really only need DDR2-800Mhz, like the G.Skill. That will let you overclock up to 3.8GHz. If you are trying for faster than that, go with DDR2-1066MHz. In any event, DDR3 is unnecessary and expensive.
     

    would also apply to the 9450 proc
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    I'd make all system 1333 MHZ. It looks like Ram is only the drop off in speed from 1333 to 1066. So DDR3 system is the way to go if you choose that route.
    THERMALTAKE VC3000BWS
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    CORSAIR 4GB XMS2 PC2-6400 eVGA 8800 GTS 640MB
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    Posts: 1197     		  Quote MattSlagle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 03 Jun 2008 at 3:04pm
    Originally posted by sirius300zx96

    I'd make all system 1333 MHZ. It looks like Ram is only the drop off in speed from 1333 to 1066. So DDR3 system is the way to go if you choose that route.
     
    Please be aware that memory in dual channel configuration is using a 128 bit bus while the FSB is only 64 bits wide.
     
    That means a FSB at 1333 MHz pushes 10.6 GB/s and memory at 1066 MHz pushes 17 GB/s.
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    Originally posted by spector27

    Posted by AndonSage in another thread:

    The DDR3 RAM is really not needed. With the high multiplier of the E8500, you really only need DDR2-800Mhz, like the G.Skill. That will let you overclock up to 3.8GHz. If you are trying for faster than that, go with DDR2-1066MHz. In any event, DDR3 is unnecessary and expensive.
     

    would also apply to the 9450 proc
     
    The 9450 actually has a low multiplier.  The 9450 has an 8x multiplier.  The FSB is 1333/4 = 333 MHz.  The multiplier is 2.66 GHz / 333 MHz = 8.
     
    DDR2-800 has a bandwidth of 12.8 GB/s in dual channel mode.  A FSB of 1600 MHz will match that.  That means that 1600/4 = 400 * 8 = 3.2 GHz as the maximum OC of that processor if you want to match the ram.
     
    If you went with DDR2-1066 memory, that means the FSB will have to be 2132 MHz to match that in bandwidth.  An OC on an 8x multiplier at that speed will be 4.2 GHz.  You could always drop the multiplier down to 7x for an OC of 3.7 GHz, which is still respectable.  However, you will only reach these numbers if your mobo can support this high of a FSB, but I doubt it.
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    Posts: 156     		  Quote AndonSage Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 2008 at 3:11pm
    Here is the math for determining which memory to get:
    Stated FSB/4 = Actual FSB
    Multiplier x Actual FSB = CPU Speed
    1:1 Ratio: 2 x Actual FSB = RAM Speed
    1:1 Ratio: FSB = 1/2 RAM speed
     
    Q9450:
    Multi x Actual FSB, RAM Speed = Clock speed
    8 x 333MHz, DDR2 667 RAM = 2.66Ghz <== Stock speeds
    8 x 400Mhz, DDR2 800 RAM = 3.2Ghz <== Easy OC
    8 x 450Mhz, DDR2 900 RAM = 3.6Ghz <== Good OC
    8 x 500Mhz, DDR2 1000 RAM = 4.0Ghz <== Excellent OC
     
    AVA Direct doesn't normally carry 1000MHz RAM, so you have to go with 1066MHz unless you ask them to get in something else. Anyway, with the normal configurators, choose one of the following:
     
    For 800MHz: G.SKILL, 4GB (2 x 2GB) PC2-6400 DDR2 800MHz CL5 (5-5-5-15) SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
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    For >800MHz: OCZ, 4GB (2 x 2GB) Reaper HPC Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 1066MHz CL 5-5-5-18 2.1-2.3V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
     
    My AVA computer: Q9450 @ 3.2GHz | eVGA 750i SLI FTW | 8GB OCZ Reaper HPC 1066HZ RAM | TRUE-120 HS w/Scythe S-Flex 120mm fan | eVGA GTX 280 621/1350/1134(2268)MHz | 320/640GB WD HDDs | Antec P182 | Corsair CMPSU-1000HX | Samsung S203N DVD burner | Scythe Kama-Meter Fan Control | Vista Ultimate 64-bit | Soyo 24" 1920 x 1200 | Logitech G15 keyboard | Logitech MX518 mouse
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    Posts: 156     		  Quote AndonSage Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 2008 at 3:36pm
    Originally posted by Flash67

    I would like your input on this set up.  Primary use would be for FPS gaming.Thanks


  • ZALMAN, CNPS9500A LED Copper CPU Cooler, Socket 478/754/775/939/940/AM2, Blue LED
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    For maximum cooling, change this to the ThermalRight Ultra-120 Extreme HS with a Scythe S-Flex 120mm 1600rpm Quiet Fan, or at least the Noctua NH-U12P.

  • ASUS, P5N-T Deluxe, LGA775, nForce 780i SLI, 1333MHz FSB, DDR2-1066 8GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI /3, SATA RAID 5 /6, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
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    Unless you are planning on Tri-SLI, or this motherboard has something specific that you need, the eVGA 750i SLI FTW is a stable and great overclocking motherboard. I've read six reviews of this motherboard so far, and all of them really liked this board.

  • OCZ, 4GB (2 x 2GB) Reaper HPC Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 1066MHz CL 5-5-5-18 2.1-2.3V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
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    This will be great for getting that Q9450 up to 3.6GHz :)

  • eVGA, e-GeForce® 9800 GTX 675MHz, 512MB GDDR3 2200MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, HDTV/S-Video Out, Retail
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    What resolution is your monitor? Unless it's 1920 x 1200 or higher, the 9800 GTX is overkill. If you're gaming at 1680 x 1050, get an 8800 GTS 512MB card. If you're gaming at 1920 x 1200 or higher, you'll probably want to get one of the new GTX260 or GTX280 video cards after they are released, so stick with eVGA so you can use their Step-Up programs.

  • WESTERN DIGITAL, 150GB WD Raptor®, SATA 150MB/s, 10000 RPM, 16MB cache

  • SEAGATE, 500GB Barracuda 7200.11, SATA NCQ 3 GB/s, 7200 RPM, 32MB cache
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    The Raptors are old tech, and the new Western Digital drives with the 320GB platters perform just as fast. I'd suggest a 320GB WD Caviar SE 16 (WD3200AAKS) for the first drive, and a 640GB WD Caviar SE 16 (WD6400AAKS) for the second drive.

  • LITE-ON, LH-20A1L Black/Beige 20x DVD±RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ LightScribe, SATA, Retail
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    The Samsung S203N is a great drive, and is quieter than the Lite-On.

  • THERMALTAKE, Toughpower, 80 PLUS®, 850W Power Supply w/ Modularized Cable Management, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, Quad +12V, Quad SLI Approved
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    I think the Corsair power supplies are better than the Thermaltakes, although their Toughpower models are the only ones that are any good. Consider either the Corsair CMPSU-750TX, or the CMPSU-1000HX if you really want a modular PSU.

    All opinions expressed in this message are my own, and others may disagree.


    Edited by AndonSage - 04 Jun 2008 at 4:59pm
    My AVA computer: Q9450 @ 3.2GHz | eVGA 750i SLI FTW | 8GB OCZ Reaper HPC 1066HZ RAM | TRUE-120 HS w/Scythe S-Flex 120mm fan | eVGA GTX 280 621/1350/1134(2268)MHz | 320/640GB WD HDDs | Antec P182 | Corsair CMPSU-1000HX | Samsung S203N DVD burner | Scythe Kama-Meter Fan Control | Vista Ultimate 64-bit | Soyo 24" 1920 x 1200 | Logitech G15 keyboard | Logitech MX518 mouse
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