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Tesseract
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Topic: Upgrade finally coming!Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 2:14pm |
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I have been lurking here at AVA for quite awhile before configuring a system. I hope to be buying within the next couple of weeks. I appreciate the info that is shared here and done so in a professional manner. I am computer literate enough to be somewhat dangerous, but still get lost in some of the component specs.
I am embarrassed to say that I am upgrading from a Pentium III system. My goal is to build a robust system and future proof myself at least for a little while. Although I am not a big game player, mainly because of my current PC, I am interested in some games. Mostly, though, the PC will be used for common desktop tasks and photo and video editing. Here is what I came up with. I am right around my price point. COOLER MASTER HAF XM (RC-922XM-KKN1) Black Mid-Tower Case, EATX, 8 slots, No PSU, Steel/Plastic ANTEC EarthWatts EA 750 Green, 80 PLUS® Bronze, 750W, 24-pin ATX12V 2.3 EPS12V, Four 8/6-pin PCIe, Retail ASUS P8Z77-V PRO, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-2600 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 6Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 3Gb/s /4, DP + HDMI, USB 3.0 /8, HDA, GbLAN, Wi-Fi, ATX, Retail INTEL Core™ i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4 - 3.8GHz TB, HD Graphics 4000, LGA1155, 6MB L3 Cache, 22nm, 77W, EM64T EIST VT-x XD, Retail COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler, Socket 1155/1156/1366/775/AM3/AM2, Copper/Aluminum, Retail PROLIMATECH Thermal Compound, 5 g CRUCIAL 16GB (4 x 4GB) Ballistix Tactical PC3-14900 DDR3 1866MHz CL9 (9-9-9-27) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC MSI N560GTX-Ti 448 Twin Frozr III PE/OC, GeForce® GTX 560 Ti 448 750MHz, 1280MB GDDR5 3900MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, 2x DVI + mini-HDMI, Retail CRUCIAL 256GB M4 SSD w/ Data Transfer Kit, MLC Marvell 88SS9174, 500/260 MB/s, 2.5-Inch, SATA 6 Gb/s, Retail WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB WD Caviar® Black™ (WD1002FAEX), SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache RAID No RAID, Independent HDD Drives LITE-ON iHDS118 Black 18x48x DVD-ROM Drive, SATA, OEM SONY AD-7280S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM SABRENT CRW-UINB Black 65-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive, 3.5" Bay, Internal USB MICROSOFT Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM WARRANTY Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty) I am looking for comments about this configuration. I always welcome suggestions on how to get more bang for my buck. A couple of questions that I have: Lots of confusion about the many offerings for motherboards and graphics cards. I am more questioning my choice for graphics. It seems that the 560TI-448 is getting to be an old card. Yet it seems to still show up favorably on graphics hierarchy charts. Is there something newer that would be more advantageous? I do not have a preference for AMD or Nvidia. Should I assume that when you build a PC that you update every component driver to the latest revision? Do you ship the component manuals with the PC? I live within about 2 hours of Twinsburg so I would be willing to pick up in the store to save shipping costs and of course ensure a safe delivery. Thanks for any input that you can give. I really appreciate it. |
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vikonic
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 2:45pm |
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Hello Tesseract,
Welcome to the AVA Forums! To answer your question about the card, the GTX 560 TI 448 has been a significant step up for the 560 TI card and the 500 series all together. However, the 500 series are slowly being overtaken by the 600 series. Although not all 600 series have been released yet (660, 650, etc) they are promising to be significantly faster from the 500 series counterparts. Therefore if you plan on ordering your system within just a few days, then I would say that the GTX 670 would be the best bang for the buck. If you don't need that kind of performance, then waiting for the 660 or lower models to come out would be a good idea. Although we do not have an ETA on the 660 yet, these cards will come out eventually as there's currently a gap in the market, that the old 560 was able to fill in nicely. The rest of your configuration looks superb. The HAF XM may be a bit of an overkill for this system, but if you like Full Tower cases then by all means go for it. I have a HAF case myself and I think that they're great. You picked a great board and the power supply. CM 212 cooler will be great for stock speeds and mild overclocking as well. We do update all the components drivers to the latest version, as well as perform Windows updates and activation. We ship all the manuals and any extra accessories that were not installed but could be used for something later down the road, such as extra power cables, sata cables, corssfire/sli bridges and others. Picking it up is definitely the best way to go. We do our best to package the system as secure as possible so it survives the shipping. However, it would be great if ALL of our customers could pick up their orders.
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crypt
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 2:53pm |
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How lucky you are that you can pick system up yourself :). I wish I could do the same :(. I've had good luck with shipping. Really nice rig.
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Tesseract
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 3:20pm |
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Thanks for the comments and additional info.
I thought the HAF XM was a midtower although it is roomy and a little heavy. But, I am not carrying it anywhere once it goes into my home office. I will look into what is available that may be a bit smaller. I just don't want to jam things into it. I looked at the GTX 670 but that added almost $150 to the build. That won't kill me but I don't know if I really need it. Any of the Radeon cards look like they may be a performance improvement without substantial cost increase? |
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crypt
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Posted: 03 Aug 2012 at 5:41pm |
I thought I'd post specs so you can compare
HAF 912 (Smallest) 19.50" x 9.10" x 18.90"
HAF 922 22.20" x 10.00" x 19.70"
HAF 932 advanced 22.70" x 9.00" x 21.50"
HAF XM 22.5" x 9.9" x 20.9" (L x W x H)
HAF X 23.20" x 9.10" x 21.70"
Pretty close between all of these cases :)
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Tesseract
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Posted: 06 Aug 2012 at 8:43am |
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Thanks for the specs. Yes they are all fairly close in size. Great cases though. I love the CM look. There is so much to choose from here that I am guilty of paralysis by analysis!!
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Posted: 29 Aug 2012 at 3:50pm |
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Hello Tesseract,
Yes, there are several AMD solutions that come close to the GTX 670, and may even be cheaper, but I must warn you that AMD cards are known to have lesser driver support, than NVIDIA, and run hotter. So, there's always catch when saving money by choosing one manufacturer than other. Whether it be due to a lack of R&D, use of cheaper materials, or lesser support. So, you must ask yourself, is saving the $50-$80 worth having to potentially deal with issues in the future? I can tell from experience and feedback received from my clients, if they knew what they would have experienced (before choosing between NVIDIA and ATI) they would have gone the NVIDIA route to save a world of headaches. All that aside, you could get lucky, like vikonic, and choose and AMD solution and have zero problems. He even custom-designed a liquid cooling solution for it and it's been working very well for him. |
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Tesseract
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Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 9:07am |
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Thanks for the info Joe. I am probably ordering this next week after the holiday. The toughest decision, which sounds crazy, is the case. So many options. I like the aggressive look of Cooler Master cases. As Vedran said earlier, the HAF XM might be more than I need. I think the HAF 912 or 922 will work for me. I noticed that you don't offer the 912 Advanced which gives you more options on the I/O panel. The same with the 922 USB 3.0 version.
Also, I think that I will go with the GTX 660 Ti over the GTX 560 Ti 448. It looks to be quite a bit better and a good compromise over the GTX 670, which I probably don't really need. If I should decide to pick this computer up from your store, what are your hours of operation through the week? I could not find that anywhere on your site. Thanks for all the help. |
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Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 11:08am |
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Hello Tesseract,
I totally agree! Choosing the case is, not only a very personal decision, but is the most time-oriented task when putting together a build. It took me almost a week to decide on my case (NZXT Vulcan) even though I had lesser choices moving forward with a mATX build. Great choice on GTX 660Ti, by the way. If you pick up a superclocked version, it will come very close to a GTX 670 and save you about $100; great deal if you ask me! Our office hours are 9am-10pm, M-F, but keep in mind that it's exactly that; an office, along with a warehouse. Once you place the order, we actually need to first order the parts, then we assemble your custom desktop system when the parts arrive. It then gets loaded with the operating system, placed in testing, and prepped for shipping (or pickup in your case). So, we will call you, or email (whichever you prefer) and let you know when your computer is ready. Feel free to post additional questions! |
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Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 11:59am |
Your da man almost a week choosing a case
I envy every customer that can pick up their rig Edited by crypt - 30 Aug 2012 at 12:02pm |
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Tesseract
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Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 12:33pm |
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Joe, any comment on the optional CM 912 and 922 cases that appear on Cooler Master's website but not on yours? I think the 912 Advanced is probably the way that I am leaning right now.
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Posted: 30 Aug 2012 at 4:43pm |
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912 Advanced is a special order case and can only be purchased at the CM store. I have the standard 912, was gonna get the Advanced but it would've been ~$120 shipped, which at the time was more than 2x the price of the standard 912. I've painted the inside of the case and added my own window for about $20.
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Posted: 31 Aug 2012 at 3:58pm |
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Yeah, I agree with vikoinc, Tesseract; the advanced is way overpriced for the simplicity. If you're willing to do some of the work yourself, you can save $60+ dollars. I watched vikonic's system progress as he modded it. It took some work, but it's definitely possible.
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Tesseract
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Posted: 09 Nov 2012 at 11:06am |
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Okay, I have wasted enough time. I think it is called paralysis by analysis. Although, it seems the prices have come down a little bit. Anyway, here is my final configuration. The only confusing issue is memory. I don't quite understand all the specs so I will leave that up to you guys to make recommendations. Let me know what you think and then I need to get this on order. Thanks guys!!
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 (RC-912-KKN1) Mid-Tower Case, ATX, No PSU, SECC/Plastic ANTEC TruePower New TP-750 Power Supply, 80 PLUS®, 750W, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, One 6-pin + Two 8-pin PCIe, SLI Certified ASUS P8Z77-V PRO, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-2600 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 6Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 3Gb/s /4, DP + HDMI, USB 3.0 /8, HDA, GbLAN, Wi-Fi, ATX, Retail INTEL Core™ i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4 - 3.8GHz TB, HD Graphics 4000, LGA1155, 6MB L3 Cache, 22nm, 77W, EM64T EIST VT-x XD, Retail COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler, Socket 2011/1155/1156/1366/775/FM1/AM3/AM2, Copper/Aluminum ARCTIC SILVER Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound, Polysynthetic Silver, Electrically Non-Conductive G SKILL 16GB (4 x 4GB) Ripjaws PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL9 (9-9-9-24) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC EVGA GeForce® GTX 660 Ti SuperClocked 967MHz, 2GB GDDR5 6008MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DP + HDMI + 2 x DVI, Retail CRUCIAL 256GB M4 SSD, MLC Marvell 88SS9174, 500/260 MB/s, 2.5-Inch, SATA 6 Gb/s, Retail WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB WD Caviar® Black™ (WD1002FAEX), SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache RAID No RAID, Independent HDD Drives SONY AD-7280S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM ROSEWILL RCR-IM5001 Black/Silver 75-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive w/ 3 USB 2.0 and eSATA ports, 3.5" Bay, SATA, USB 2.0 MICROSOFT Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM WARRANTY Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty) |
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Jmundy
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Posted: 09 Nov 2012 at 4:27pm |
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Hello Tesseract,
I think you are on the right tracking with your memory selection, at least when it comes to speed. There are a hundred of reviews, available for your disposable, then will analyze the performance differences between RAM speeds and timings to develop a more in-depth understanding about their benefits. Truly, from my own experience and research, RAM timings and speeds make very little difference above 1600Mhz. At least, there are not enough applications out there that take advantage of these small differences between RAM speeds and timings, so it's nothing you really have to concerns yourself with at the time being. There is on concern I have, based on your memory kit decision. Since you chose a kit that will take up four DIMM slots, and a large CPU Cooler (COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 EVO CPU Cooler) you need to make sure the RAM is low-profile. By low-profile, I mean the RAM has form fitting heatsinks on the sticks, rather than tall fins like the G SKILL 16GB (4 x 4GB) Ripjaws. You could always switch to a 2x8GB kit, however that will limit you to 16GB and prevent you from installing an additional two sticks in the future. My recommendation would be to switch to a kit, such as the Corsair Vengeance LP kit, G. SKill Ares, or Crucial Ballistix Sport RAM kit. Either of those three kits would work out perfectly for you, and eliminate any physical issues with the RAM kit and CPU fan combo. This is more of a suggestion, rather than an issue, but I'm glad to see that you selected the CRUCIAL 256GB M4 SSD over others. That being said, Crucial is the first manufacturer to offer official RAID 0 support. For the same price, you could opt for two CRUCIAL 128GB M4 SSD SSDs and set them in RAID 0. The benefit of doing so would be the increase of read/write performance. So, that 500/260 MB/s rating would be more like 1000/520 MB/s. The write performance created, out of doing so, has been done before by other manufacturers, but at the cost of stability. (OCZ, Corsair, ADATA) - all from the Sandforce controller's unreliable performance. The read performance, however, is typically something you have to pay thousands of dollars to achieve by choosing one of OCZs PCI-E SSD solutions...just something to consider, not necessarily a recommendation or an issue. :-) Feel free to post additional questions!
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Tesseract
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Posted: 12 Nov 2012 at 3:22pm |
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Thanks Joe for your encouragement and comments. I have always been a person that loves to learn as much as I can about anything that I get into. Especially the technology world.
I will look at the different memory configurations that you have suggested. The physical size of the memory and how it fits into the build of the system is something that I would know about. Thanks for that. I don't know a whole lot about RAID configurations but your suggestion sounds intriguing. But, is it more about making something that is really fast, faster? I can appreciate that but what happens if one of the drives fail? You would lose everything . . . I think. RAID 0 configurations don't have redundancy if I can recall. How do you back up a RAID 0 configuration? Can you back up to a single HDD and then restore that one SSD drive that might fail? I just don't know how to tell if all of that is worth it. |
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Posted: 13 Nov 2012 at 11:59am |
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Hello Tesseract,
I'm happy to hear you appreciate the learning curve. I try to include as much valuable information as possible, moving forward, so you can make a well-informed decision and ultimately be happy with your configuration. That's on of the key goals of AVADirect! Of course, and we don't expect you to know about physical limitations involved with building custom desktop PCs; that's what we're here for. When it comes down to is, a single Crucial M4 SSD will be more than enough for you. I used a single M4 SSD for a while and was more than pleased with the results. The only reason I opted for a RAID 0 setup was to increase capacity (cut myself short with a 128GB SSD) not to improve performance, that was just a plus. There's no redundancy, should a RAID 0 array go down, but that's more of a concern for hard disks. The more a hard disk is powered on, the more prone it is to failure. It's the exact opposite for an SSD; you can have it powered on for all eternity. If it's not going through a large amount of read/write processes then it will continue to operate as expected. What's excellent about the RAID 0 support for Crucial M4 SSDs is the fact that it can actually improve the lifetime of the SSD. RAID 0 splits the read/write load between disks, so if you have two Crucial M4 SSDs in RAID 0 then they will only undergo half of the normal read/write processes they go though as an independent disk...make sense? It's actually an awesome solution, if you think about it, but if you're still concerned I completely understand. A single disk should still exceed your performance expectations. I recommend using Acronis for creating backup images; it works excellent. You can create an image of the SSD, and store the image on a secondary hard disk. Should it fail (or one out of two SSDs, should you decide to use RAID 0) you can reload the image on a temporary partition until your system is up and running at it's fullest. |
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Tesseract
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Posted: 20 Nov 2012 at 2:35pm |
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Well, now that I am more of a RAID expert than I need to be, I am going to stick with the single Crucial 256GB SSD. There are definitely pluses and minuses to the RAID 0 configuration. But, the pluses just aren't enough to sway me right now. I also changed the memory configuration as you suggested. So here is the latest, which is not much different than my earlier version:
COOLER MASTER HAF 912 (RC-912-KKN1) Mid-Tower Case, ATX, No PSU, SECC/Plastic ANTEC TruePower New TP-750 Blue Power Supply, 80 PLUS®, 750W, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, One 6-pin + Two 8-pin PCIe, SLI Certified ASUS P8Z77-V PRO, LGA1155, Intel® Z77, DDR3-2600 (O.C.) 32GB /4, PCIe x16 SLI CF /1+1*, SATA 6Gb/s RAID 5 /4, 3Gb/s /4, DP + HDMI, USB 3.0 /8, HDA, GbLAN, Wi-Fi, ATX, Retail INTEL Core™ i5-3570K Quad-Core 3.4 - 3.8GHz TB, HD Graphics 4000, LGA1155, 6MB L3 Cache, 22nm, 77W, EM64T EIST VT-x XD, Retail COOLER MASTER Hyper 212 Plus CPU Cooler, Socket 1155/1156/1366/775/AM3/AM2, Copper/Aluminum, Retail ARCTIC SILVER Arctic Silver 5 Thermal Compound, Polysynthetic Silver, Electrically Non-Conductive CORSAIR 16GB (4 x 4GB) Vengeance™ LP PC3-12800 DDR3 1600MHz CL8 (8-8-8-24) 1.5V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC EVGA GeForce® GTX 660 Ti SuperClocked 967MHz, 2GB GDDR5 6008MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DP + HDMI + 2 x DVI, Retail CRUCIAL 256GB M4 SSD, MLC Marvell 88SS9174, 500/260 MB/s, 2.5-Inch, SATA 6 Gb/s, Retail WESTERN DIGITAL 1TB WD Caviar® Black™ (WD1002FAEX), SATA 6 Gb/s, 7200 RPM, 64MB Cache RAID No RAID, Independent HDD Drives SONY AD-7280S Black 24x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner, SATA, OEM ROSEWILL RCR-IM5001 Black/Silver 75-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive w/ 3 USB 2.0 and eSATA ports, 3.5" Bay, SATA, USB 2.0 MICROSOFT Windows 7 Professional 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM WARRANTY Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty) Please comment on anything in this configuration that looks odd. I need to get this on order soon. I was going to ask about Windows 8 but I won't. I will stick with Windows 7 for right now. The upgrade path to Win 8 in the future looks to be reasonably priced.
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Posted: 23 Nov 2012 at 11:12am |
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Tesseract,
I'm glad to hear you're skipping on RAID. I believe that the disadvantages of RAID 0 can prove to be a real headache when things go wrong. We have many customers running RAID 0 on standard HDDs as well as SSDs, even our own Joe Mundy has a RAID 0 SSD setup, and they all seem to be working fine. However, if something was indeed to fail then the whole volume is gone. I suggest starting with a single SSD, enjoy the speed increase and go for RAID 0 if you wish at some point in the future. Since you're getting a 1TB drive, I would use that opportunity to backup the SSD on consistent basis, either through integrated windows backup or through dedicated third party software such as Acronis True Image. The rest of the build looks great. I think you will be happy with the 912 as it is a very modest case, looks great and it doesn't weight 6 million pounds like its big brothers. I've had a blast with my 912 so far, and if I had to build my rig all over again, 912 would be the weapon of choice. As for Windows 8, it's got some bugs, but it's a welcome addition to the Windows family. If you decide to hold off for a while, then there will be no problem. Maybe it's a good idea to wait couple of months until a few little quirks are worked out and then you can make the leap. It's definitely an improvement over Windows 7 and I like some of the tweaks that were added which Win 7 really missed out on. But still, just like with every other new OS, there are some issues. Depending on what you do with your system, you may or may not be affected by some of the bugs, but these are mostly minor and are expected to be resolved within the next few weeks.
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Posted: 07 Dec 2012 at 3:24pm |
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Well, I finally did it!! I just got done placing the order for the new PC. Although my wife still doesn't believe me. I think I will indulge myself in a bottle of Scotch tonight to celebrate!
I trust that you guys will do a great job building, testing, and fine tuning it. Thanks for all your help. I learned a ton in the process which is always a good thing for me. |
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