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  Quote Flash67 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: another config
    Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 12:57am
So, OK...here is my third attempt to get the best overall performance for around 3K.  My primary use will be FPS gaming so I want to be as close as I can get to top performance for the $s and as I can only do this every 4-5 years, I want to be able to upgrade as I go and not have to make changes too often to stay current with new games.  With the new video cards on the near horizon, I would be willing to wait if it may be worth it, but only if I don't have to spend a lot more or if there will be a significant drop in the prices of what's available now.  I guess that video, processor and mamory are the top considerations, but can I get better performance by spending a bit more?? or maybe even a little less???  I want to get the most bang for the buck!

Thanks for the help.

NTEL, Core™ 2 Quad Q9450 Quad-Core 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB (2 x 6MB) L2 Cache, 45nm, 95W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail

  • ZALMAN, CNPS9500A LED Copper CPU Cooler, Socket 478/754/775/939/940/AM2, Blue LED
  • SERVICE, Overclocking, Quad-Core CPU, 10-20% Performance Increase
  • ASUS, P5K/EPU, LGA775, Intel P35, 1600MHz FSB, DDR2-1200MHz (O.C.) 8GB/4, PCIe x16 CF /2, SATA 3 Gb/s /4, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
  • OCZ, 4GB (2 x 2GB) Reaper HPC Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 1066MHz CL 5-5-5-18 2.1-2.3V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
  • eVGA, e-GeForce® 9800 GX2 600MHz, 1GB (2 x 512MB) GDDR3 2000MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, HDMI, Retail
  • BFG TECH, AGEIA™ PhysX Physics Card, 128MB DDR3, 32-bit PCI 2.3
  • SERVICE, Overclocking, Dual GPU, Optimal and Stable Performance
  • WESTERN DIGITAL, 300GB WD VelociRaptor™, SATA 3 Gb/s, 10000 RPM, 16MB cache
  • WESTERN DIGITAL, 500GB WD Caviar® SE16 (WD5000AAKS), SATA II 300MB/s, 7200-RPM, 16MB cache
  • RAID, No RAID, Independent HDD Drives
  • ROSEWILL, RCR-102 Black 52-in-1 Card Reader/Writer Drive, 3.5" Bay, Internal USB
  • SAMSUNG, Super-WriteMaster™ SH-S203N Black 20x DVD±R/RW Dual-Layer Burner w/ LightScribe, SATA, w/ Software, OEM
  • ANTEC, Twelve Hundred Black Full Tower Case, ATX, No PSU
  • ZALMAN, ZM-MFC1 Black/Silver 6-Channel Fan Controller Panel, 5.25" Bay
  • CUSTOM WIRING, Standard Wiring with Round Cables
  • LOGISYS, Dual Cold Cathode Case Lights Kit, Blue
  • ANTEC, Quattro 1000 Power Supply, 80 PLUS®, 1000W, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, SLI Certified
  • MICROSOFT, Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit Edition w/ SP1, OEM
  • SERVICE, OEM System Recovery (both secure HDD partition and bootable CD/DVD)
  • SERVICE, System Binder
  • LOGITECH, G15 Keyboard (920-000379), Black, w/ LCD, USB, Retail
  • RAZER, Razer Copperhead™ Mouse 2000dpi, 7 Buttons, Tempest Blue, USB
  • GAMING PC, Silver Warranty Package (3 Year Limited Parts, 3 Year Labor Warranty)
  • SERVICE, Standard Shipping (UPS, DHL, or Fedex)

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      Quote MattSlagle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 10:20am
    Originally posted by Flash67

    INTEL, Core™ 2 Quad Q9450 Quad-Core 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB (2 x 6MB) L2 Cache, 45nm, 95W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail
     
    Best processor for the money at the moment.
     
    Originally posted by Flash67

    ZALMAN, CNPS9500A LED Copper CPU Cooler, Socket 478/754/775/939/940/AM2, Blue LED
    Your really going to like this.
      
    Originally posted by Flash67

    ASUS, P5K/EPU, LGA775, Intel P35, 1600MHz FSB, DDR2-1200MHz (O.C.) 8GB/4, PCIe x16 CF /2, SATA 3 Gb/s /4, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail
    eVGA, e-GeForce® 9800 GX2 600MHz, 1GB (2 x 512MB) GDDR3 2000MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, HDMI, Retail
    Your limiting your upgrade ability with this combo.  While the board has great specs, you are getting an ATI CrossFireX board.  If you want to be able to link two NVidia cards together later on, you need an SLI board like the 750i, 780i, or 780i.
     
    Originally posted by Flash67

    OCZ, 4GB (2 x 2GB) Reaper HPC Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 1066MHz CL 5-5-5-18 2.1-2.3V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC
    Makes some of the best memory.  Although DDR2-800 would be fine with setup.
     
    Originally posted by Flash67

    ZALMAN, ZM-MFC1 Black/Silver 6-Channel Fan Controller Panel, 5.25" Bay
    I have heard complaints about the LEDs flashing, and if that bothers you, I suggest you try another fan controller.
     
    Originally posted by Flash67

    ANTEC, Quattro 1000 Power Supply, 80 PLUS®, 1000W, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, SLI Certified
    Overkill unless your adding another GX2
     
    All you have to do is change the mother for an SLI motherboard, and your set to go if you plan on adding another card down the road. 
     
    However, if you plan on sticking with one card only, the GX2 is a beast.  Then you can get a non SLI or CF board and drop down the PSU down to around 750W.  Plus with the eVGA step-up, you can upgrade that card later on at almost no cost when the new cards roll out in a month.
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      Quote AndonSage Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 11 Jun 2008 at 12:18pm
    Originally posted by Flash67

    I want to get the most bang for the buck!

    Here are my recommendations:

  • INTEL, Core™ 2 Quad Q9450 Quad-Core 2.66GHz, 1333MHz FSB, 12MB (2 x 6MB) L2 Cache, 45nm, 95W, EM64T EIST VT XD, Retail

  • Like Matt said, this is the best processor for the money. It has the same overclocking limit as the more expensive Q9550.

  • ZALMAN, CNPS9500A LED Copper CPU Cooler, Socket 478/754/775/939/940/AM2, Blue LED

  • AVA Direct carries the Xigmatek HDT-S1283, which is rated the second best cooler at FrostyTech. This is the one I would have gotten in my system if I had known about it before I ordered.

  • ASUS, P5K/EPU, LGA775, Intel P35, 1600MHz FSB, DDR2-1200MHz (O.C.) 8GB/4, PCIe x16 CF /2, SATA 3 Gb/s /4, HDA, GbLAN, FW /2, ATX, Retail

  • I couldn't find any reviews of this motherboard at the normal review sites, but the reviews on newegg for this board were very good. If you are only ever going to use one video card then the P35 chipset will be fine. My personal view is that one high-end card is better than two cards in SLI or CrossFire, because games have to support SLI/CrossFire for it to be useful, and not all games do this well. Other people disagree. If you decide to go with SLI, then I recommend the eVGA 750i SLI FTW motherboard, although there have been some reports of video corruption with all of the 7x0i chipsets.

  • OCZ, 4GB (2 x 2GB) Reaper HPC Edition PC2-8500 DDR2 1066MHz CL 5-5-5-18 2.1-2.3V SDRAM DIMM, Non-ECC

  • Getting this memory will allow you to overclock the Q9450 past 3.2GHz, which is what you would be limited to if you only used 800MHz RAM.

  • eVGA, e-GeForce® 9800 GX2 600MHz, 1GB (2 x 512MB) GDDR3 2000MHz, PCIe x16 SLI, DVI /2, HDMI, Retail

  • Without knowing what size of monitor/resolution you game at, it's tough to recommend something. This card is for gaming at 1920 x 1200 and higher. However, some of the new video cards coming out are rumored to have performance better than a 9800 GX2. If you stick with eVGA, you can use their Step-Up Program to get one of the new cards for only the difference in price.

  • BFG TECH, AGEIA™ PhysX Physics Card, 128MB DDR3, 32-bit PCI 2.3

  • Unless you have a particular game that you want to play that supports this card, then you don't need it. The new nVidia video cards will have PhysX support incorporated into them.

  • WESTERN DIGITAL, 500GB WD Caviar® SE16 (WD5000AAKS), SATA II 300MB/s, 7200-RPM, 16MB cache

  • The new 640GB WD Caviar SE 16 uses the new 320GB platters, and is as fast on data transfer as the old Raptors. Since you are getting a VelociRaptor I assume you are interested in speed, so you're better off with the 640GB.

  • ANTEC, Quattro 1000 Power Supply, 80 PLUS®, 1000W, 24-pin ATX12V EPS12V, SLI Certified

  • The Corsair brands are a much better power supply. If you are only going to stick with one video card, then a Corsair CMPSU-750TX will be enough. If you might go with two video cards at some point, then get the Corsair CMPSU-1000HX.
    My AVA computer: Q9450 @ 3.2GHz | eVGA 750i SLI FTW | 8GB OCZ Reaper HPC 1066HZ RAM | TRUE-120 HS w/Scythe S-Flex 120mm fan | eVGA GTX 280 621/1350/1134(2268)MHz | 320/640GB WD HDDs | Antec P182 | Corsair CMPSU-1000HX | Samsung S203N DVD burner | Scythe Kama-Meter Fan Control | Vista Ultimate 64-bit | Soyo 24" 1920 x 1200 | Logitech G15 keyboard | Logitech MX518 mouse
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