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MattSlagle
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Topic: Custom Built Liquid CoolingPosted: 16 Apr 2008 at 4:45pm |
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Every single liquid cooled computer is custom built for that specific system. We do not just mount the components and call it a day. We actually drill our own mounting holes, use only the best coolants, cut the tubes to exact fit, and test the whole system. While we do offer pre-built liquid cooling packages from third-party suppliers, opting for the custom liquid system will provide better cooling capabilites, better components, and the truly custom look. Some of products we use for these setups include items from EK, Alphacool, DangerDan, Koolance and others.
Liquid cooling systems are significantly more efficient than air-cooling, resulting in lower component temperatures and lower noise operation. This allows the processor and video card to run at higher speed and gives much more freedom to overclocking enthusiasts. Our premium CPU liquid cooling kit is configured for performance oriented users and overclockers who wish to maintain a quiet working/playing environment. CPU Water Blocks We Use
GPU Water-Blocks We Use Please be aware that we use specific video card water-block for the specific video card selected. Each manufacturer below makes different video card blocks, so AVADirect cannot guarantee that we use a specific manufacturer with a specific video card. AVADirect will choose a correct water-block based on system performance and needs.
Reservoir and Pump Assemblies We Use
Radiators We Use
Other Extra Equipment We Use
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themandalorian
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Posted: 17 Aug 2008 at 2:38am |
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I have two questions 1. How easy is it to drain the coolant if i have an external radiator or resivoir 2.. How easy is it to refill? 3. Why is it that in the picture it doesnt seem like the smartcoil wrapping is throughout the tubes, do you have to pay extra? |
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themandalorian
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Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 1:58am |
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Think you'll be using the new Apogee? http://www.frozencpu.com/products/7929/ex-blc-518/Swiftech_Apogee_GTZ_Universal_CPU_Waterblock_-_Preorder.html#blank
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MattSlagle
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Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 11:28am |
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Our liquid solutions use an all in one resevoir/pump that is stored inside a 5 1/2 drive bay hidden by a drive bay cover. You can fill/drain from there.
We only use smart coils where needed. If we the customer wants smart coils throughout the system, we can do that as well. You would need to talk to a sales associate to find out pricing based on the setup and system.
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themandalorian
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Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 2:15pm |
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Alright thank you How about that new CPU block? |
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MattSlagle
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Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 3:07pm |
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Since all of our liquid cooling is custom per customer/system, you can request any components you would like. There may be a small upcharge depending on the price of selected components though.
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themandalorian
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Posted: 18 Aug 2008 at 5:47pm |
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Alright sounds good.
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sargx
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Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 9:24am |
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Just a question on pricing:
CPU: 350 CPU+GPU: 750 You're doubling the price, so are you doubling the hardware? Or just adding a gpu block to the loop? Are you upgrading the reservoirs? Since you use the Koolance 950, could you upgrade to the Koolance 1000 since it's so pimp? At cost difference of course. |
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Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 10:42am |
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This is not just a price for hardware, we also factor in the cost of the labor.
Thanks for checking us out.
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themandalorian
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Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 12:41pm |
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I see the pump is the same in the 1000, is the only difference the LED display? Doesn't seem worth it |
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sargx
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Posted: 19 Aug 2008 at 7:30pm |
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Right, the difference between the two is purely aesthetic (and informative).
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themandalorian
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Posted: 23 Aug 2008 at 2:42am |
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Has AVAdirect every experimented with phase change cooling
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MattSlagle
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Posted: 25 Aug 2008 at 9:34am |
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I have looked into that myself personally, and I would love to put out a system that uses that.
Instead of buying an aftermarket unit and using a case to go on top, I would rather prefer an all-in-one unit that houses everything inside the case.
Thus, we would have to build the phase change unit ourselves, and that takes time and effort. We currently have in R&D at the moment, and when that is done within the next few months, we hope to have something like that out.
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themandalorian
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Posted: 25 Aug 2008 at 6:06pm |
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Good luck! Phase change looks and sounds very interesting
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Jmundy
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Posted: 03 Oct 2008 at 10:43am |
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Phase change shall be a tricky task, there is not doubt about that. There are several things to think about:
Insulation
Temperature control
Case
Placement
All of these things are crucial to the way phase change cooling will operate within a system. I personally can't wait until we start working on it! :-)
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themandalorian
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Posted: 04 Oct 2008 at 1:02am |
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I got a question, how does phase change affect GPU's? How far can the clocks go? I've seen processors more than double their speed, but how much faster can you make a GPU go, and how much of a FPS diff would that make. Just curious, wouldn't be able to afford it anyways. |
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MattSlagle
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Posted: 06 Oct 2008 at 12:20pm |
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As of now, phase change is only reasonable for the CPU. GPU hardware limits overclocks past 10%, aircooling or phase change. Also, the complexity of cooling CPU and GPU is so much more then just cooling the CPU.
You would need two units for that and that would more then double the price of the cooling system.
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themandalorian
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Posted: 25 Oct 2008 at 1:15am |
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Ahhhhh ok. I do have a question regarding liquid cooling. What do you think of the aquastream pump. I'm interested in it |
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MattSlagle
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Posted: 27 Oct 2008 at 10:23am |
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I looked up the pump, but I do not think I found what you are looking for. Do you have a link?
As far as liquid cooling hardware, we mainly stick with Koolance and other name brands. Although we are always open to customer's hardware suggestions for their builds.
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themandalorian
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Posted: 27 Oct 2008 at 6:45pm |
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http://www.frozencpu.com/products/6582/ex-pmp-58/Aqua_Computer_Aquastream_XT_Ultra_USB_Eheim_12_Volt_Liquid_Cooling_Pump_w_Aquasuite_Software.html here it is |
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