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2014/08/14 01:22:50 (permalink)

Building a Laptop

I have a lot of questions concerning this model: http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-laptop-configurator.asp?PRID=26190

I am definitely getting a laptop this Christmas and need some help. Most likely going with you guys. This topic is a mixture of hardware and general services questions. I did not see a forum for general service questions and I thought it wouldn't matter since it applies to this model anyway. I most likely plan on buying this.



I know a good amount about computers but not enough.



So this laptop will run a desktop mobo with a desktop cpu? That is what the LGA2011 is?



I read up on the upcoming DDR4s and LGA2011-3. So I suppose when that becomes affordable it will not be a few years before you guys stick that in a laptop? I don't think it'll matter much anyway.



My important questions, if you please could answer:

1. Can I get you guys to upgrade my laptop in the future for a fee with a better CPU that is compatible with the socket(LGA2011)?



2. Could you guys get a custom 120hz version of the screen so I can play in 3D? I only saw Alienware have that and it's not worth what they want. I know I can hook my 120hz monitor to my laptop but it would be nice to get it on my laptop.



3. If you guys can upgrade my CPU for a fee could you do the same for a compatible future GPU? Or could I get a second GPU in SLI?



4. Do you offer Military discounts? I am in the US Navy.



5. I am going to purchase in Christmas, probably black Friday, will I have a choice of custom specs or what's in stock or do you guys ignore black Friday?



6. Do you guys offer monthly payments?



Please answer my questions. I really like what this site is selling. I have built a desktop 5 years ago and my PSU died. And I just found out I can get a laptop that can run games just as fast and faster than my old desktop and CUSTOMIZE (!) it; I went nuts.



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    Building a Laptop 2014/08/14 12:28:27 (permalink)


    Hello Hellmanjk and welcome to the AVADirect forums!
    Let's get straight to the questions shall we?
     
    1 - We're always happy to upgrade the systems as the new hardware comes out, however when it comes to laptops that may not always be so easy. The motherboard in the P570WM is a proprietary board built just for this notebook. While it accepts any 2011 socket CPU, only motherboards that work in this are the Clevo specific boards and they can not be upgraded in any way. This means that if the socket standard  changes in the future, then you would not be able to get a new CPU in the system. With Desktops, this isn't a big deal because you can easily swap out the motherboard, but with notebooks, this is much more difficult. This is not to say that the P570WM is completely not upgradeable. So far, you may pick any CPU from the i7-3xxx or i7-4xxx range. Unless Intel makes a major socket revision or changes to the next workstation CPU, you will most likely be able to use that as well.
     
    2 - As of right now, we have not yet had a chance to include the 120Hz screen. We are working with Clevo to get us that option so in the mean time we only have the Glossy and Matte screen options of the standard screens.
     
    3- GPU upgrades, same thing applies that I've described in my CPU response. If the technology changes in any way and the manufacturer (Clevo) does not account for with BIOS updates or similar upgrades then the new GPU may not be compatible. This is pretty much true for most notebooks. If you look at any notebooks now that are 3-4 years old, you would likely not be able to install the current GPUs on the market, such as GTX 880m or similar.
     
    4- Because we offer some of the lowest prices on the system builder's market, we do not provide additional discounts, however there are promotions running every so often that you can take advantage of and they're usually posted on our forum under AVADirect section.
     
    5- Sometimes we get to enjoy the discounts offered on black Friday, but this is typically out of our control. If we encounter these savings we usually pass them onto the customers, but the best bet would be to check our site at that time to see if there are any special deals.
     
    6- We do not offer monthly payments, however we do allow Paypal purchases, and with paypal, you could use options such as BillMeLater that can be paid off in installments.
     
    Now, if you're looking for the P570WM as a strictly gaming notebook, I believe you're probably going over the top. The 570WM is intended for a workstation replacement that is somewhat mobile. Idea behind it is to replace someone's rendering machine, someone's video editing workstation or similar type of work or office computers that need plenty of power. If you simply want gaming notebooks, there are better choices that utilize mobile components and do not rely on desktop CPUs for performance.
     
    For example, notebooks such as P177SM-A are much better suited for gaming than the P570WM. Not to say that P570WM is not good. It is a great notebook, but it is built to do so much more than games. If you don't plan on using it for all of those things it was built for, then there are better choices out there for gaming notebooks.
     
    I hope that answers most of your questions. If you have any more questions or any of my explanations were unclear, feel free to post anytime!
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    Building a Laptop 2014/08/14 19:23:18 (permalink)
    Wow. The moment I read: "Because we offer some of the lowest prices on the system builder's market" I was like: "We shall see..." Then I checked out Origin, Alienware, Falcon NW, Puget and Asus. Your statement is 100% true.



    I could get this laptop: http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-laptop-configurator.asp?PRID=29566 with the new gtx 880m for around 1400-1500K. That is the cheapest I have seen. The second being for 1800K+ from MSI.



    I have at least 1500K for a nice gaming laptop. At most, I can spend a little over 2K. I would get that first laptop but my question is will I be able to install a second gtx 880m in the future? It does not give me the option now. But I know you can SLI two of them on that mobo bc this laptop has the option: http://www.avadirect.com/gaming-laptop-configurator.asp?PRID=29568 And that laptop has the same cpu socket so I assume that means same mobo? Is there just not enough space in the first laptop?



    If I cannot add a second to 880m to the first then I assume I could do it to the second laptop? Since the second offers it now. In that case I would go with the second. In the future, when I have more money available and when it becomes cheaper, if I buy the i7-4940MX, since it fits the same socket and is 100% compatible with the mobo could you guys install it? You guys offer it as an option but its not for me right now. Do you guys sodder the cpu on? Are the mobos prebuilt with soddered cpus?



    And thanks for the recommendation of staying away from the P570WM. And the paypal tip was also very helpful.Hellmanjk2014-08-14 19:32:20
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    Building a Laptop 2014/08/15 12:23:51 (permalink)


    Hellmanjk,
     
    The P377SM is a much larger notebook  (thicker) than the P177SM. The arrangement of components is different and an additional PCIexpress slot is available to run dual card configurations on the P377SM. It also has few extra storage connections available. I also think that the cooling system is better setup on the P377SM but the P177SM does a great job at getting rid of heat, too.
     
    In the P177SM, it's only possible to install just one video card. So if you see yourself needing another 880M in the future (or even now) then the P377SM would be the best choice, as the P177SM will limit your options.
     
    Externally, both notebooks have a similar appearance, with similar keyboards, illumination and screen choices. The only deciding factor between them is if you need the extra hardware that the P377SM is capable of handling. If so, then that's the best choice.
     
    No soldering is required for these components and we do not perform any kind of soldering. The CPU is simply installed into the socket and locked down by the retainer screw.
     
    In terms of upgrades, we can perform any upgrades you wish as long as the technology is compatible. We have no means to modify anything that we do not make ourselves, but installation of parts is not a problem. Many of our existing customers often send in their computers for additional upgrades. Sometimes they just send it in for cleaning and optimizing services. We don't simply sell a notebook and cut-off communication with our customer. Owning an AVADirect PC is an on-going experience and you're welcome to reach out to us at any time and request upgrades, services, etc. As long your requests are possible and parts are available, they should not be a problem.
     
    Also, not a problem regarding the P570WM. I thought that it was a bit too much of a system for what you need it for. It's powerful and expensive and it has it's place in the market, but you don't really gain anything if you under-utilize notebook of this type.
     
    Lastly, definitely checkout PayPal's BillMeLater. I've used it on few occasions myself and it's a great way to get 0% interest credit and pay it off easily. As long as you pay off your bill within 6 months, you'll really like it. However, if you go past 6 months, then the interest fees can sting so watch out for that. I also believe their credit limit for starters is around $1000, which may not be your full purchase price, but still a substantial amount of money to cover the cost of the notebook.
     
    I hope that answers your questions, but should you have any additional ones, feel free to post away!
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